pcterm_news.txt Discussion of the "pcterm" mode for using a character-cell video terminal. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <7vko24$ngh$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3818AA7B.2411@compuserve.com> Date: 1 Nov 1999 19:01:24 GMT Organization: Columbia University From: Jeffrey Altman Subject: Re: Looking for PCTerms In article <3818AA7B.2411@compuserve.com>, Donato B. Masaoy III <104625.sevenfive@compuserve.com> wrote: : : We are running MultiUser DOS 5.11 in our office. I have a few TV950's : and the rest of our terminals are PC's running an emulator called PCTerm : which comes with MDOS. Would prefer some dedicated terminal rather than : PC's. We run a handful of DOS apps only. I have tried VT420 but can't : get that setup correct. I have heard that Wyse 60 is "PCTERM" : compatible, tried one of those out, but the setup only allowed for ANSI. : Tried an ANSI TV970 but that didn't work out. : : Basically looking for help determining definition of PCTerm and : terminals that will support that. : PCTerm is not an emulation but a keyboard mode. When PCTerm mode is active, the terminal sends make/break sequences for the keyboard events to the host, instead of characters. PCTerm is implemented on a variety of DG and Wyse terminals. It is also available in the DEC [Boundless] VT5xx series. In addition to the PCTerm keyboard mode you also need to choose the correct terminal type, whether that be DG, Wy60, or ANSI X3.64 based. Several Unix console drivers also support a PCTerm mode, including SCO ANSI and AT386. -- Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support@kermit-project.org ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: !cambridge1-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.shore.net !newsfeed.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!wlbr!news X-Trace: wlbr.to.gd-es.com 941846587 17734 (None) [206.241.180.182] X-Nntp-Posting-Host: n206241180182.gsc.gte.com Organization: General Dynamics Communication Systems Message-ID: <38237032.105F1801@GD-CS.Com> References: <3818AA7B.2411@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:02:58 GMT To: "104625.sevenfive@compuserve.com" <104625.75@compuserve.com> From: "Scott G. Hall" Subject: Re: Looking for PCTerms "Donato B. Masaoy III" wrote: > > We are running MultiUser DOS 5.11 in our office. I have a few TV950's > and the rest of our terminals are PC's running an emulator called PCTerm > which comes with MDOS. The product "PCTerm" is unique to the OEM version of MS-DOS that shipped from your MultiUser DOS. But the terminal mode it is emulating has been around for a while, and products such as Alloy PC-Cards and other plug-in boards that are really PC's on a card in the slot of a different computer (Alloy's boards were ISA, acting like a network of PCs inside a PC; Sun's SunPC and SunPCI are examples for Sparc-based systems). > ...Would prefer some dedicated terminal rather than > PC's. We run a handful of DOS apps only. I have tried VT420 but can't > get that setup correct. The VT420's did not support PC-TERM mode. However VT5xx series does. > ...I have heard that Wyse 60 is "PCTERM" > compatible, tried one of those out, but the setup only allowed for ANSI. The old Wyse-60 was designed before there were even PCs. However, the Wyse-160 has a "pcterm" emulation mode. As does the Wyse-99GT and few other late-model Wyse Terminals. > Tried an ANSI TV970 but that didn't work out. > > Basically looking for help determining definition of PCTerm and > terminals that will support that. PC-Term mode basically is this: a) The keyboard sends scancodes back to the host rather than character codes. In other words, it looks like an IBM-PC/AT keyboard. b) The screen portion responds to a specialized subset of ANSI with a few minor enhancements -- it behaves just like the old ANSI.SYS driver from MS-DOS. I own a Link terminal that supports PC-Term emulation. As do the XTerm utilities in both my UnixWare system and my Linux system. -- Scott G. Hall General Dynamics Communication Systems North Carolina Systems Center email: Scott.Hall@GD-CS.Com ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <6s7u4o$hst$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <6s7sj9$2em$1@cletus.bright.net> Date: 29 Aug 1998 03:56:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Subject: Re: WYSE/PC TERM Emulator? In article <6s7sj9$2em$1@cletus.bright.net>, TowerComm, Inc. wrote: : : Has anyone out there seen or used an emulator for Wintel (DOS/Win3x/Win9x) : that emulates a WYSE 150 which is, in turn, emulating a PC TERM personality? : : Any input would be appreciated. I've got a wacky application developed by : a programmer that used some characteristics of the WYSE 150 terminal under : PC TERM that is driving me nuts - most packages I've looked at emulate WYSE : or PC TERM, but not "both at once", if you know what I am saying. That is really interesting considering the fact that PCTERM is not an emulation but a keyboard mode that may be applied to any terminal emulation. Kermit 95 (http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html) supports a Wyse 60 emulation that has all of the Wyse 150 extensions. And it supports PCTERM keyboard mode. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <35EB022D.9F0AD1AA@GSC.GTE.Com> References: <6s7sj9$2em$1@cletus.bright.net> Organization: GTE Government Systems Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:06:05 GMT To: "TowerComm, Inc." From: "Scott G. Hall" Subject: Re: WYSE/PC TERM Emulator? TowerComm, Inc. wrote: > Has anyone out there seen or used an emulator for Wintel (DOS/Win3x/Win9x) > that emulates a WYSE 150 which is, in turn, emulating a PC TERM personality? { Actually Link and Altos terminals are the only other ones I saw that emulated Wyse-150 "PC Term" mode correctly -- what a hoot to see this still around... } As I posted in a previous post, try Procomm Plus for Windows. Then set the emulation to "PC Scan Codes" under the ANSI modes. What the Wy-150 in PC- Term mode is doing is sending back 8-bit codes per key that emulate the scancodes of the original IBM PC/XT keyboard and upon return, is acting like you have ANSI.COM running. { Don't laugh! This was perfect for those folks with Alloy boards that where an XT or AT on a card, and used a serial terminal in PC-Term mode as the screen and keyboard. A Wyse-99GT would even provide HGA graphics emulation with these boards (the Hercules graphics mode) } -- Scott G. Hall GTE Government Systems North Carolina Systems Center email: Scott.Hall@GSC.GTE.Com (old address) ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// References: <3818AA7B.2411@compuserve.com> <38237032.105F1801@gd-cs.com> Date: 6 Nov 1999 20:05:03 GMT Organization: Columbia University Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <8021lf$iij$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> From: Jeffrey Altman Subject: Re: Looking for PCTerms In article <38237032.105F1801@gd-cs.com>, Scott G. Hall wrote: : PC-Term mode basically is this: : : a) The keyboard sends scancodes back to the host rather than character : codes. In other words, it looks like an IBM-PC/AT keyboard. : : b) The screen portion responds to a specialized subset of ANSI with a few : minor enhancements -- it behaves just like the old ANSI.SYS driver from : MS-DOS. The Wyse 160 terminal's PCTERM is the combination of Extended Wy60 screen display with make/break sequences from an AT-style keyboard. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support@kermit-project.org ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// References: <3818AA7B.2411@compuserve.com> <38237032.105F1801@gd-cs.com> <8021lf$iij$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:52:54 GMT Organization: General Dynamics Communication Systems Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <38276256.72082CAA@GD-CS.Com> From: Scott G. Hall Subject: Re: Looking for PCTerms Jeffrey Altman wrote: > > The Wyse 160 terminal's PCTERM is the combination of Extended Wy60 > screen display with make/break sequences from an AT-style keyboard. That's what I get for generalizing from my WY-99GT and my Link terminal. Both run the screen in subset-ANSI mode while sending scancodes from the keyboard when in PCTERM emulation; I assumed that the WY-160 did as well... (sigh) Now that I look at the setup, the Link can respond to a number of encodings when in pcterm mode... -- Scott G. Hall General Dynamics Communication Systems North Carolina Systems Center email: Scott.Hall@GD-CS.Com ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Newsgroups: comp.terminals NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.152.13.71 NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Jul 2003 04:55:42 GMT Message-ID: Date: 23 Jul 2003 21:55:42 -0700 From: Ralph Warta Subject: AT386 terminal specs needed Hi, Does anyone posess the specs for a AT386 terminal (including charsets)? I need it because I have to write a Terminal Emulator but cannot find the specs for the AT386. Thanks Ralph .............................................................................. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:22:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard S. Shuford Subject: Re: AT386 terminal specs needed The AT386 is the virtual terminal type of the Unix operating system product originated by Interactive Systems and later taken over by Sun Microsystems. Some versions of SCO Unixware also implement the AT386 as the console terminal type. Therefore, there is mention of the AT386 in the file on "Unix terminal use". http://www.cs.utk.edu/~shuford/terminal/unix_terminal_news.txt Some of the AT386's properties may be deduced from its terminfo description, which in Solaris resides in binary form at /usr/share/lib/terminfo/a/at386 Here is the termcap-style decoding: $ infocmp -C at386 AT386|at386|386AT|386at|at/386 console @(#)386.ti 1.4:\ :am:bw:eo:xo:pt:\ :co#80:li#25:kn#6:\ :AL=\E[%dL:DC=\E[%dP:DL=\E[%dM:DO=\E[%dB:IC=\E[%d@:\ :LE=\E[%dD:RI=\E[%dC:SF=\E[%dS:SR=\E[S:UP=\E[%dA:\ :ae=\E[10m:al=\E[1L:as=\E[12m:cd=\E[J:ce=\E[K:\ :cl=\E[2J\E[H:cm=\E[%i%2;%2H:dc=\E[P:dl=\E[1M:ho=\E[H:\ :ic=\E[1@:is=\E[0;10m:k1=\EOP:k2=\EOQ:k3=\EOR:k4=\EOS:\ :k5=\EOT:k6=\EOU:k7=\EOV:k8=\EOW:k9=\EOX:kb=\b:\ :kd=\E[B:kh=\E[H:kl=\E[D:kr=\E[C:ku=\E[A:nd=\E[C:\ :se=\E[m:so=\E[7m:ue=\E[m:up=\E[A:us=\E[4m:vb=^G:\ :bc=\E[D:nl=\E[B:ko=le,do,nd,up,dc,ho: If you don't know how to interpret a "termcap" entry, there is a book to read: "termcap and terminfo" by John Strang, Linda Mui and Tim O'Reilly 3rd Edition April 1988 270 pages, ISBN: 0-937175-22-6, $29.95 U.S. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/term/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0937175226 Kermit-95 (and possibly MS-Kermit) have AT386 as an emulation type. You could consult that documentation, and possibly the documentation of other products that emulate the type. ...RSS //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////